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dorchadas ([personal profile] dorchadas) wrote2024-11-06 04:23 pm

Woke up this morning unsurprised

The polls always showed that Trump had a good chance of winning and Trump always performs over his polling.

I think the really damning thing is the polling on the issues. Among people who said the economy was their most important priority (31% of respondents), 79% voted Republican. Among people who said that Immigration was their most important priority (11% of respondents), 89% voted Republican. There are similar breakdowns the other way around for abortion rights and "the state of democracy" (76% Democratic and 81% Democratic respectively), but obviously not enough to overcome the people who voted Republican. Though I should say, the results are bad enough that any attempt to point to a single cause (or any causes that are tightly connected) is probably a bad idea.

Just to pick one, those Republican state of democracy voters would absolutely not agree on what the threat to democracy is with the Democratic ones.

I've also seen a lot of people saying that the conspiracy is that Trump will be sworn in, almost immediately hit with the 25th amendment, and then President Vance will transform America into a theocracy and that's baffling to me. No president has ever been forced out under the 25th, so the process would be a nightmare, and there's no way in the world Trump resigns quietly no matter what they offer him. An attempt to do that would lead all of Trump's devotees to claim that the "swamp" was trying to throw him out. I'm not saying that some people aren't planning it, or that they won't try it, but it wouldn't be quick or easy.

We'll see if term two is mostly standard bad Republican governance like term one was, or something worse.
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[personal profile] omnipotent 2024-11-07 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't surprised either. I saw this coming as soon as the Democrats chose Harris as their candidate. I thought then that they should have chosen Gavin Newsom, and I still think that.

I don't think Vance would force Trump out, but I DO think there is a chance, however slim, that we'll have a President Vance. Trump isn't in the best of health, and unless the people around him are really, really, really good at pulling a Woodrow Wilson, I can't see Trump serving a full term.
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[personal profile] omnipotent 2024-11-13 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahahaha, I, too, keep seeing the "villanous Newsom" memes. Mind you, I do not know if he could've actually won against Trump, but I think he'd have had a better chance than Harris. I will say that Newsom absolutely crushed DeSantis in debate, and as someone forced to live under DeSantis's policies, it was EXTREMELY satisfying to see.
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[personal profile] earthspirits 2024-11-07 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh to all of it. But yeah, I can definitely envision V. thinking hard about going all 25th on him. But as you say, he's never going to go quietly away, just not his style.
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[personal profile] dumplingsquid 2024-11-11 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I know this lovely spot in the ass-end of the world that would love to have a beautiful family like yours living there :P.

Come to Australia. Please and thank you.